tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277610123203340064.post9011123148323613197..comments2012-07-07T16:15:11.725+03:00Comments on Life of Yeshiva Guys in Israel: Goodbye, But Not For LongYeshiva Guyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10869893997749083542noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277610123203340064.post-14465191735466656892009-10-02T07:44:58.394+02:002009-10-02T07:44:58.394+02:00"The Heavens and the Earth sing His praise.&q..."The Heavens and the Earth sing His praise."<br /><br />The language and song are one, really. The song of all creatures, the song of creation. Torah. Shir Hashirim. Etc. Need I go on? To a fellow YG "also" acquainted with the Toras Ha'Olah etc., no doubt I need not elaborate here.<br /><br />-YGYeshiva Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10869893997749083542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277610123203340064.post-51658300012731347192009-09-30T20:44:48.721+02:002009-09-30T20:44:48.721+02:00How does one learn the language? How does one hear...How does one learn the language? How does one hear the music?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277610123203340064.post-78371161394274388642009-09-25T23:34:24.188+03:002009-09-25T23:34:24.188+03:00Vicki:
Oh- didn't realize. Obviously, w/o tha...Vicki:<br /><br />Oh- didn't realize. Obviously, w/o that point being agreed on there is very little to discuss as far as control when Moshiach will come, etc. <br /><br />But before then, so you know, I'm a big fan of everyone who wants living in Eretz Yisroel. The more the merrier!Yeshiva Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10869893997749083542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277610123203340064.post-89441488390978085722009-09-25T23:32:34.876+03:002009-09-25T23:32:34.876+03:00E. Fink:
"Also, I love that wherever I go in...E. Fink:<br /><br />"Also, I love that wherever I go in EY I am surrounded by my brothers and sisters."<br /><br />Me too. Its pretty cool, this extended family of mine!Yeshiva Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10869893997749083542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277610123203340064.post-48164669057852894612009-09-25T20:11:54.319+03:002009-09-25T20:11:54.319+03:00Hey YG,
Thanks for the response. I think we can a...Hey YG,<br /><br />Thanks for the response. I think we can agree to disagree here because I am coming from a secular perspective, one that acknowledges that Jews have a clear claim to the land based on some archaeology that verifies that some events in the Tanakh did happen and that it is our homeland; but, at the same time, just because it is ours doesn't mean it also isn't the Arabs', who also have lived on it for generations.Vickihttp://www.vickiboykis.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277610123203340064.post-71234363762146923092009-09-25T19:37:41.205+03:002009-09-25T19:37:41.205+03:00YG:
It is interesting because I have a very simil...YG:<br /><br />It is interesting because I have a very similar feeling about Eretz Yisrael.<br /><br />To explain the "non-Tzionish" part I feel that whoever is in charge of the Land of Israel my feelings remain the same. In other words, the government, settlements and politics play no role in my approach to EY.<br /><br />To be able to see and experience our storied history "first-hand" and see the beauty of the land is more meaningful to me than politics.<br /><br />Also, I love that wherever I go in EY I am surrounded by my brothers and sisters. That is what means to most to me.E. Finkhttp://finkorswim.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277610123203340064.post-26273516344300806092009-09-25T19:25:31.761+03:002009-09-25T19:25:31.761+03:00Vicki:
To be clear about this. No, he doesn't...Vicki:<br /><br />To be clear about this. No, he doesn't- the most ultra-orthodox (hareidi) Jews -like him- do not believe that we own this land...yet.<br /><br />But in all fairness, when Moshiach comes, iy"h, the land will revert to our control. And the fact of the matter is that the land was given to us, according to the Torah, etc. If you would like more sources re this please feel free to Twitter/Email me and I'd be glad to provide them.<br /><br />-YGYeshiva Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10869893997749083542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277610123203340064.post-9342592413362787862009-09-25T19:21:59.979+03:002009-09-25T19:21:59.979+03:00Anon:
If you don't mind, could I trouble you ...Anon:<br /><br />If you don't mind, could I trouble you to explain your question a bit more precisely? Specifically, what concerns you here?Yeshiva Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10869893997749083542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277610123203340064.post-90615714866765384722009-09-25T17:10:59.084+03:002009-09-25T17:10:59.084+03:00Hey,
This is a great post describing a yearning m...Hey,<br /><br />This is a great post describing a yearning many Jews (including me) feel about Israel-longing and an intense connection. <br /><br />However, you write, describing the rabbi,<br />"Describing a trip up north, he was saying; "As we traveled, we went through many Arab settlements and villages. All over, they were. And It's my land. Don't you see, it's MY LAND. My land". This last was a broken, screaming cry, almost desperate."<br /><br />Is this implying that he believes that the Arabs living on the land should get out to keep the land pure for Jews? It's their land, too.Vickihttp://www.vickiboykis.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277610123203340064.post-11934086425324573542009-09-25T08:09:23.364+03:002009-09-25T08:09:23.364+03:00Shalom
I'm really concerned about that stateme...Shalom<br />I'm really concerned about that statement of 'Not in Tzioni-Rav Kook sort of way"...and I'm wondering what they're teaching you.Nebach...Please explainAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277610123203340064.post-7714485868229435192009-09-25T06:29:55.319+03:002009-09-25T06:29:55.319+03:00Chana:
I will address your valid Rav Kook questio...Chana:<br /><br />I will address your valid Rav Kook question via email. <br /><br />Re "Our Land": <br />I don't think he meant, at all, that everyone else should get out, or anything remotely similar. This guy was a seriously Yeshivishe Rov...I think he meant it in a simple way. In the way a Yid cries out to Hashem- it's our land, give it back.<br /><br />Re Ger Toshav:<br />This is not my thing, my I seem to think that Ger Toshav etc. is not applicable today. Am I wrong?<br /><br />Final comment re YG's sitting next to ladies etc.; again, via email.Yeshiva Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10869893997749083542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6277610123203340064.post-37801182338949671782009-09-25T01:40:30.772+03:002009-09-25T01:40:30.772+03:00It's beautiful that you feel such a love and c...It's beautiful that you feel such a love and connection to Eretz Israel. However, I am curious about this statement: "Not in a Tzioni, Rav Kook way (chas v'shalom), but in a nice, pareve type of way." What's chas v'shalom about loving the land as R' Kook did? Also, while your Rav was inspiring, I think it's wrong to claim it's *our* land and that means everyone else has to get out. The problem he should be lamenting, if anything, is that certain sects of these people are not acting in accordance to the rules of Ger Toshav (hence the suicide bombings, etc) but not the very fact that they are *there.*<br /><br />Also, in a previous post you mentioned that you couldn't (or wouldn't) sit next to a girl on a flight back to Israel. Out of curiosity, where is that rooted in halakha? Or is it that yeshiva students cannot sit next to a girl because she will automatically have such a profound effect on them?Chanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17655144434904957767noreply@blogger.com